50 Series Passenger Cars    (Circa 1908-10)
 

Earliest version of this baggage car, it has litho peds, black roof with hand painted vents and steps with cross hatching. This one is white with green trim and black lettering. Note that this car has lithographed lines on the body, compare it with the car below that has embossed body lines.

 

Above and below are late versions, circa 1910 of the Brooklyn style baggage with plain frame, riveted 2 hole hook couplerss and plain colored roof.

Later version of this car has a plain gray roof, green frame and steps. Note the Lithography is white (or cream) with red highlights and red lettering. this car has riveted 2 hole hook couplers, earlier cars have a smaller, thinner hook. The No. 50 baggage in this series is also the hardest to find - it would appear that Ives used the red Iroquois style baggage for many of the Brooklyn series sets. This is evident when you find a red baggage with hook couplers.

Unusual Variation - this one has a floor train frame and is numbered 150 Although it has track wheels and definitely came with a track locomotive. This car is white with red trim and black lettering, Probably sold in 1913 using up old floor train bodies.

We've put this car here as we've found this exact car in three different sets circa 1908-10 that also contained Brooklyn and/or Buffalo cars. Note the bright cherry stripped ends and although not visible in the picture these cars have small hook couplers to match the Brooklyn series cars.

Two different No. 50s side by side. One on left has embossed rib, small hook coupler. The one on the right has lithographed ribs and large hook coupler. The example on the right is a later construction - note the seem on the top over the door.

51 Series Brooklyn Cars

We believe this is the later version of Brooklyn Pullman as it has embossed ribs and the large hook coupler Note also that the car is silver or more translucent white with red trim and lettering. The line above and below the name Brooklyn are actually embossed, not just lithographed. Below is a similar car below with green roof but has only two color litho as opposed to the car above with 3 color lithography. Note that this one also has embossed ribs.

A similar car as the one above except this one is more white (eggshell) with black trim and lettering. This car has only two color lithography. A three color litho car would have another color (red, gold) that would appear inside the circle around Brooklyn and in the windows.  Note the litho frame, steps and the embossed lines above and below the windows. The car below has the 3 color litho, with lithographed (non-embossed) ribs.

End view of Brooklyn car in translucent green to show the red detail from the bottom litho coating. Still this has 2 color litho, embossed ribs and large hook couplers.

Again same time period as car above.  This car is also known to come in a dark  green as well as the bright green below. Note that the car on top has full embossed sides and ends. The car below has no embossing and all the lines are lithographed in and it has 3 color lithography.

Looking more like a floor train with it's plain base and 151 number This car is white with red trim and black lettering, The lines above and below the windows are now lithographed into the side and NOT embossed. The Brooklyn cars with the '150' numbers on them have a completely different construction with each side coming together at a seam over the end doors. The metal used to form the body is also much lighter and fragile and may explain why few of these are found today.

End of Brooklyn car showing gold band. Below are 5 different Brooklyns side by side, the one on the left has a silver band at the top. The middle car and the one on the right have embossed ribs through the middle.

52 Buffalo Cars

The most common version of the No. 52 Buffalo car is white with translucent red trim and black lettering. This car has the lithographed base and steps, plus the black roof with painted vents. Both examples above have no embossing on the body stripes.

 

This black No 52 Buffalo car has yellow trim and silver lettering, All of the black Buffalo cars we've seen had embosed ribs above and below the windows. Below is another black Buffalo with a floor train type base and gray roof, probably from 1910.

A somewhat later version of the Buffalo, this car has a plain painted frame and steps. The roof is a gray with no painted vents, also notice the extra red line below the embossed black line at the bottom.

Another late variation this example has a dark green painted frame and steps with a light gray painted roof. The sides are  embossed and it has the extra red line at the bottom.

This looks like a floor toy, smells like a floor toy, has the floor car number, but track wheels. The most unusual thing about it is that it has "THE IVES RAILWAY LINES" lettering above the windows which didn't start until 1913. These cars may have been sold separately after the floor trains were removed from the catalog. Below is a similar car.

 

Bottom of two different Brooklyn cars show the early light tin coupler (left) and the later big hook coupler (right) with the two holes in it.

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